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Selling a music collection

19 Thursday Feb 2026

Posted by mp3monster in General, Music

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This may come across as maudlin or possibly depressing, but as the popular financial advisor Martin Lewis says, the grim reaper gets us all, and leaving your partner and family in the dark about how to pick up and manage the finances, etc., is pretty hard. But any half-committed music collector will want their collection treated with the consideration that personal effects like jewellery would have.

When I thought about this, initially I thought it just needed to be a document alongside my will, it occurred to me that the guidance would be specific to me, I’d largely apply it to many. Which is why this became a blog post.

My son is starting to make his way in the world of music and might find the courage to take on the collection. Failing that, let friends and family have a rummage before disposal is started.

My better half is not a die-hard music collector; she enjoys music, but it is more a transient pleasure. When in record stores and record fairs, it really seems like a couple of things, so the temptation to sell a collection wholesale will be there. There are people out there who will buy up entire collections or simply let a house clearing company take it away – you will get as the expression goes ‘only get pennies n the pound’ for the value. I don’t begrudge these people that act, after all, a living needs to be made, and the fun of crate digging comes from these people selling on, and sometimes they don’t recognize the value of the music they have acquired. If you want to really make someone turn in their grave, well then, the collection goes to the skip, but think of the environmental harm you’re inflicting.

Discogs is your friend

Discogs is a website that tracks the details of releases to great detail, distinguishing the releases down to specific pressing form a particular record plant. As Discogs pays for itself by also operating as an online market place, It tracks the highest and lowest prices people have paid for a release – this is the first clue as to the true value of any item in the collection. That said, rare items, which don’t change hands very often will have prices that might not be representative.

If the collection isn’t on Discogs, it might be worth adding. The process is easy enough with any device that has a camera and a browser. You start by simply scanning the barcode (best to use an app integrated with Discogs). Most of the time, the app will find one ore matching results. You might get more than 1 as the barcode can sometimes represent multiple different pressings (typically because a standard printed sleeve may be used, but the vinyl may be from different plants or issuing cycles). When this happens, you’ll need to choose the correct version. This can best be addressed by looking at any information included that relates to run out groove details on vinyl, or its equivalent for CDs. The Discogs guides will help you better understand this.

My Discog possible errors

For my collection, there are a few details worth keeping mind, firstly when I first cataloged the collection with Discogs we already had a lot, so when there lots of versions I selected the one, that had the ‘headline details’ that matched – sleeve type, colour, release date. But, during this phase there is a chance I choose the wrong one, so it’s worth checking before selling. Why check? Well, like books, first pressings usually fetch more value. In some cases certain pressing plants have been noted to produce higher quality pressings.

Everything released since the late 80s onwards in my collection will be likely be first issues/pressings. This can be verified since the addition date will be within days of the release date.

Grading

All media when sold, is sold with a condition score from mint, near mint down, and this is applied to both vinyl, CD etc. and a separate assessment for the sleeve. Here, Discogs can help as the scoring system I well described in their guide. For my personal collection, very nearly everything will score highly; there are a couple of exceptions where quality was compromised as an acceptance of lower quality when I’ve sourced through crate digging (virtual or real), which is fairly small.

So, how can I claim this, well …

  • Media stored properly, never left out when not being played. vinyl is never stacked (a cause of warping) or even leaning.
  • We’ve stored vinyl with antistatic sleeves, very nearly exclusively using Nagaoka Discfile 102s. These are considered by many as the Rolls-Royce of anti-static sleeves.
  • Media has been well stored – record cases, replaced with custom flight cases, and now professional-grade outer sleeves in an IKEA Kallax setup (considered good for vinyl as it can handle the weight).
  • With the advent of the Digipak (folding card sleeves) for CDs we’ve protected them with sleeves so they don’t scuff etc.
  • Vinyl was never played to death. I used to copy everything to cassette for freedom and casual listening. CDs never got played in cars (a classic source of scratching and tarnishing) – they were copied to CDR or minidisc and later hard disks, to copy onto USB sticks for portability.

My music collection has been cared for in part as I’ve had to work to pay for nearly everything, from paper rounds to Saturday jobs and so on.

Understanding Valuation

Valuation isn’t just driven purely by the quality of the media or rarity (which can be from deliberately limiting numbers produced, to production errors).

The value of any album or single doesn’t often make sense, this because some artists seem to attract collectors. Depeche Mode for example is a mainstream artist that has this kind of community. But others, maybe pretty obscure but do well, these are often what can be described as an artist’s artist. In other words an artist that has been admired or influential for other artists, as a result you get a ‘cognoscenti’ culture.

There are also factors such as the record label involved, an original Chess records release will be highly prized, because of the import of the label.

Trying to identify what influences value without getting into the head of the collector community isn’t easy. But I’ve tried to distill some easy to spot influencers. These are certainly true for my collection.

The bottomline is the closer to the best possible price for any artefact, the more you’re going to need to understand that collector community. If you’re honoring wishes, of not letting a collection go for rock bottom prices, then we’d recommend checking prices on several web sites such as Discogs, EBay and others.

Of course if you’re dealing with a large collection, you need to filter down what is run of the mill vs potentially valuable. The following are general quick clues:

  • Singles (they rarely get repressed, have tracks that don’t show up on other releases).
  • Numbering on the sleeve, the smaller the batch the greater the possible value
  • Signed by the artist
  • Die cut, lenticular covers
  • Box sets often have extra content not available elsewhere and are produced in smaller numbers.
  • Anything produced before the mid 1950s
  • coloured vinyl (picture discs can fall into this category)
  • In North America and Europe, there is value in Japanese releases (usually with a mobile strip – paper strip wrapping the recording.
  • Bootleg recordings – usually live recordings
  • Vinyl releases with gatefold sleeves for albums with only one piece of vinyl or booklets (this costs money for no real gain other than possibly driving up early sales).
  • Labelled as a Record Store Day release (indicates limited issue).

CD valuation

The pricing of CDs generally have cratered, this is a combination of vinyl gaining popularity again. Easier to create fakes, and volumes, and unlike Vinyl, generally don’t go out of print, as we’re able to produce pretty much on demand now.

But this isn’t true for everything. CD singles have definitely retained and even gained value, this can be attributed to:

  • They have versions of tracks or even extra songs that haven’t made it to the streaming platforms.
  • The singles have definitely gone out of print.
  • Unusual sleeves, die cut, lenticular, different artwork.
  • Singles by the 90s saw smaller production numbers.

Some record labels were prepared to do things, particularly with singles to drive up sales, which meant chart positions, which helped propel album sales.

For me, we collected a lot of CD singles because of all the extra tracks that didn’t make it to albums. It became common to also release multiple versions of singles, and yes with my favourite artists, or those with a reputation to invest in remixes or B sides I’d eat all the versions, which together could boost the value.

Some CDs experienced limited runs, with sleeves sometimes having numbering printed on them, or hand signed by the artist. A benefit of buying directly from artist websites, as soon as the album was announced.

Provenance

Provenance particularly for signed albums can be tricky at times. Sometimes the delivery note, may record that the release may be a special edition,, or signed etc. sometimes, the unique characteristic may be acknowledged on a delivery note, but usually it would mention the value on the website and web order, which I usually saved as a PDF in among the record of purchases kept electronically.

Pricing guides

Aside from Discogs, there are other places to try and ascertain value. There is the Rare Record Price Guide book, which picks up on the better-known collectables, but I’ve found its prices are often below potential. Then there is Record Collector magazine, which provides a way to list sales, and you can also see what people are selling for.

Selling

While Discogs is one option for selling, eBay is another, and there appears to be greater tolerance for price ranges (and lower fees than on Discogs). When it comes to editions with distinct uniqueness/value, another option to maximise value is to sell via fan websites (and Facebook pages), where people are more likely to recognise the release’s value, such as a complete set of CD singles, a first pressing, etc.

The watchword here is be patient, don’t skimp on the postal packing, we’ve hung onto some packaging, but selling online will need a lot more. Sourcing these from mainstream channels will make this expensive. Go to a specialist like Covers33 and buy in quantity.

Useful resources

  • Discogs
  • Record Collector magazine
  • Covers33
  • Popslike website – we’ve not used, but has been collecting auction price data.
  • Rare Record Price Guide

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Getting the best music gifts

21 Monday Apr 2025

Posted by mp3monster in Music, Music Resources

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Following on from my previous piece, I thought I’d cover additional music options that aren’t necessarily vinyl.

Not vinyl, but…

Super Deluxe Editions (SDE)

SDE produces Blu-ray versions of albums. These typically consist of high-quality audio mixes of the albums, along with surround sound audio mixes for an immersive sound experience. While not marketed as limited editions specifically, they appear to be produced in limited quantities, with pre-order volumes dictating the number of copies to be produced.

If you have an artist you like, an established rock or indie act that is about to reissue a successful album or release a new title with high expectations, it’s worth checking in with SDE if Blu-ray audio is of interest. To date, releases have been made available for Paul McCartney, Tears for Fears, Kraftwerk, Suede, Bob Dylan, and others.

Subscriptions

Many artists, particularly those who are not multi-million-selling artists, are exploring the use of subscription models through services such as Patreon and Bandcamp. It is possible to buy such subscriptions as gifts.

The subscription’s benefits vary from artist to artist, but they usually involve additional releases not available elsewhere. Examples of this include Thea Gilmore (a new song every month) and Peter Gabriel (previously unreleased recordings, versions of songs during their development, etc.).

Books

Books seem to be a growing area, not just in the form of biographies, but also in narratives about music collections, album artwork, and so on.

Aubrey ‘Po’ Powell – complete Hipgnosis Catalogue (I got my copy from Hypergallery)
Dust & Grooves is the best book I’ve seen on vinyl collecting

Some of these books, while substantial volumes, are getting very expensive. We have a signed copy of Aubrey Powell’s Complete Hipgnosis Catalogue (the group responsible for the art on all of Pink Floyd’s albums) from a couple of years ago for less than £50. The second volume of Dust & Grooves, released this year, costs £100 for a standard copy.

Some indie record stores are expanding to cover music-related books, such as Resident Music.

Kit

Aside from buying music, another option is resources to help care for a vinyl collection. There are some nice kits available, which bundle vinyl brushes, cleaning solutions, and more. But such kits have limited benefit. To provide proper care, consider a suitable vinyl cleaning machine. Good ones start at a couple of hundred pounds and are best purchased through a hi-fi dealer, such as Audio-T or Sevenoaks Sound and Vision. They typically use ironised water to gently wash the vinyl. Don’t suggest tap or typical bottled water as these will contain small impurities that dry into the grooves – the very thing you’re trying to avoid.

Better still, to minimize the problems of dust and dirt, is to store records within antistatic inserts. Have you ever noticed how brand-new vinyl can be challenging to remove from the inner sleeve? That’s static at play, and it also attracts dust and dirt into the grooves. The static will build up as you slide the vinyl in and out of the inner sleeves. So, putting the vinyl into an antistatic sleeve first removes that problem. Some record companies provide the albums in a paper inner sleeve, which is lined with an anti-static layer – Godwana Records do this. However, the inner sleeve is typically plain, without any printing (i.e., printed lyrics, musician details, or artist commentary).

Pro-Ject VC-E2 Vinyl Record Cleaner – from dealers like Audio-T

There are several brands available, but the best ones, which many people swear by, are Nagaoka RS-LP2 Anti-Static Record Sleeves, also referred to as Nagaoka No. 102. These usually come in packs of 50, and you can expect to pay £30 per pack.

If the records are not being stored in a nice soft-lined sturdy record case, then consider outer sleeves. This will help in several ways …

  • Reduces dust and dirt getting into the sleeve in the first place.
  • Reduces the potential for sleeve wear (corners and edges can show wear) as the records are slid in and out of shelves.
  • Reducing sun bleaching of the sleeve is the shelving that gets exposed to direct sunlight.
  • Replace the PVC packaging that records are shipped in, as it can cause the sleeve and record to tarnish over time due to plastic ‘off-gassing’ (a more detailed explanation can be found here). You want to replace that with Polyethylene (also known as polythene) sleeves.

These are pretty easy to source. Personally, I’ve dealt with Covers33 and found their products to be of good quality and well-priced. Remember, if you’re using sleeves for box sets, you’ll need larger sleeves, which are not always easy to obtain.

Artwork

Most people think of hanging original or limited, signed prints from artists or photographers, where the art was not created for a specific purpose, such as album sleeves. However, the art for album sleeves is no less of an artistic endeavour, and doesn’t have to be plastered with titles and other text. You can collect such art with limited-edition prints approved and signed by the artist and/or the musician. You can find this sort of thing at galleries such as Hypergallery or St Paul’s Gallery. If you go something like this, the picture needs to be framed appropriately and, importantly, has a certificate of authenticity.

Conclusion

These two posts started out as just sharing some brief thoughts, but have morphed into a bit of a monster. I hope you find them useful. As I wrote these two posts, a couple of pieces on HiFi Pig Magazine came to mind, which I thought were worth sharing as they do reflect aspects of the mind of vinyl music collectors:

  • Completitists: Gotta Catch ‘Em All?
  • Boxsets – Just Fancy Dust Collectors?

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